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What are the realistic expectations in adopting a Grey, when I have a dog?

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Hello all, 

I am looking for good advice from experienced Grey owners. I have decided to adopt a baby grey soon. The baby will be ready to come home in a month. I have a 4 year old dog, (picture attached), whose mom is a Jack Russell terrier and father unknown. Possibly a Maltese. My dog Caesar, likes to chase squirrels and crows in the backyard. And he is very aggressive(barks) towards other dogs. He has never bitten another dog or any small animals. But mainly because we are always careful in keeping him away from other dogs. I think he might bite another dog if he gets a chance. He barks at people who are non family. But never bites. He is just scared of strangers. 

I am concerned about what can I expect when I bring the baby Grey home. The baby will be 3-4 months old. How do I introduce the baby to Caesar? Will he be aggressive? How do I get him used to the baby if he is aggressive? Will I ever be able to have the bird outside the cage when the dog is present, under my supervision? Or do they always have to be separate? What would be a realistic expectation? I work from home. When I am working, I would like to have my Grey and Caesar both hanging out with me. Would that be realistic? 

Caesar is a very sweet dog and a cuddle bunny with family members, always asking for belly rubs. But quite different with other animals. Will he accept after a while that the Grey is part of the family or he will be aggressive towards the bird? 

I am worried about this. I would wish my dog to accept the bird. But I don’t want to have any unrealistic expectations. It is difficult for me to visualize what to expect.

Please advise.

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That dog can kill a Grey in an instant.  Even with best intentions I've seen people crying on FB that their grey got out and was mauled by the dog.  Best to keep them separate and under supervision at all times.   

 

We like cats.  We will never have another cat because of what it could do to the birds.    Our dogs now live outside/garage/veranda.  Our littlest dog has a high prey instinct and I will never leave her around my birds.

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Always keep them separated. You just never know when their prey instincts will kick in.

I have a curtain and gate that separates my 3 German shepherds from our 13 birds whenever I have them out. They are never allowed to co-mingle, even though I believe they wouldn't harm them. I simply won't risk the possibility

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Alfie was raised with a german shepherd dog and a cat. Our dog, Ben, would chase birds and squirrels on the park so I always kept them separate. Alfie started by living in my bedroom and neither the dog nor cat were allowed in there unsupervised. If Alfie came out, the dog and cat were put outside, or doors were closed to keep them separate.

Alfie was moved downstairs into a new, bigger cage and I never had any bother with them pestering each other. Alfie was really curious about Ben and would often climb down the cage side to investigate him when Ben sniffed round the cage. If Alfie was fighting with his toys or slipped on a perch Ben would come running to check on him.

Busta, our cat, was VERY prey motivated and I had two gerbils at the time which he was fascinated by. However he didn't pay any attention to Alfie in his cage. Alfie even managed to climb down the inside of the cage and pluck some fluff from the cats tail without him noticing one.

I still kept Alfie separate from the dog and cat when he was out though. There is a big difference between a parrot in a cage and a parrot out of the cage and it was too risky.

As it happens Alfie did escape from his cage once when I didn't close the food bowl hatch properly. He was out for half a day in the house with the dog and nobody home. Thankfully neither of them were injured. In fact, when I came home, the dog hid out of the way because he was a bit nervous. Even with that, I never risked them being out together again. It would only take one incident for Alfie to be killed or the dog/cat to be injured by Alfie and I wouldn't have been able to forgive myself.

Alfie now lives with two indoor cats- two bengals who are very energetic and very prey driven. Again, it's not worth the risk for me to even consider letting them out together. So When Alfie is out, the cats get the upstairs of the house and Alfie gets the downstairs. Again, they are fine when he's in the cage and mostly leave him alone. But I wouldn't risk it when he's out and about. I've seen one of my cats jump several feet into the air and catch a fly mid flight... imagine what would happen with an African grey flying past.

My advice would always be to keep them separated. Terriers are known to be very prey driven and it's just not worth the risk in my opinion. Multi-pet households can work but they need an awful lot of work to ensure each pet gets the attention they deserve and need.

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Thank you all for your kind advice.

I have a very good perspective now. I am carefully rethinking my decision to adopt the Grey. I will proceed with the adoption only if I am certain about the logistics of keeping the dog and bird separate and provide them the necessary time and attention. 

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Sound decision making, here our dog is small and has no prey drive a few of the cats do so not as much out time for the birds. Cats have to be secured before our birds can fly about the house. Our old cats were no problem the Greys had them trained, the younger new cats not so good.. Not all our birds are good to each other we have to supervise when they are loose or have them take turns.

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Probably better be safe than sorry, but a lot depends on the nature of the dog concerned, who may just try to put the baby in it's proper hierarchical order,  i.e. below the dog, with disastrous consequences,    Especially if it feels jealous of all the attention the new baby is getting. However, I have attached old pics of when we had a guinea fowl (long story), two dogs, and the parrot was the last to arrive. The two birds literally ruled the nest!  The guinea fowl even shared a big double bed with the dogs in bad weather.   We also at one time had a duck that used to bite the labbie on the loose skin of her jaw, and draw blood.  Worst we ever saw was some slobber on the duck's neck and the dog's blood!  The 53 Kg lady Ridgeback just ran away from the duck,  and this from a dog breed that was originally used to flush out lions.   We fortunately never had a real problem  with an mixed species family. 

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